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A real-life story · Oklahoma, United States, 2009

Crystal McVea’s near-death experience

Crystal McVea was a teacher and mother of four in southwestern Oklahoma, in the United States. In December 2009 she was in the hospital with an inflamed pancreas, and she stopped breathing. It took the doctors a few minutes to revive her. She later said that during those minutes she was with God and saw a little girl playing with a basket.

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Her book, “Waking Up in Heaven,” was one of the best-selling books in the United States. Crystal doesn’t say she saw her body or the doctors who were reviving her. But there is one detail that can be checked. After hearing what that little girl looked like, her mother found an old photo. We tell it step by step and then look at what can be checked. If you only want the evidence, skip straight to what can be checked. Who was the girl with the basket?

Step 1

Before 2009 · Oklahoma · Crystal’s account

A teacher with a hard childhood who doubted God

Illustration from the story of Crystal McVea: “A teacher with a hard childhood who doubted God”

Crystal McVea lived in southwestern Oklahoma. She was a teacher with four children, and the two youngest were twins. She says she had a very hard childhood at home and that she was abused as a girl.

She doubted God. She says she thought it had to be one of two things. Either God existed and didn’t love her, or he didn’t exist.

In 2009 she began having panic attacks.

Step 2

Late 2009 · A hospital in southwestern Oklahoma · Crystal’s account

A medical procedure inflames her pancreas and she goes back to the ER in severe pain

Illustration from the story of Crystal McVea: “A medical procedure inflames her pancreas and she goes back to the ER in severe pain”

Because of the panic attacks, she had several tests. During one of them, the doctor found a blocked duct between her pancreas and her liver and put in a small tube to open it. When she woke up, she was in terrible pain. The procedure had inflamed her pancreas.

The doctor wanted her to stay in the hospital, but Crystal went home. That same night the pain doubled her over, and she went back to the ER in the early hours of the morning.

They gave her a pump with Dilaudid, a very strong painkiller. By pressing a button, she could give herself a dose whenever she was in pain. Her mother, Connie, stayed by her side in the room.

The next day, Crystal kept getting worse.

Step 3

December 10, 2009 · In her hospital room · Her mother’s account

Crystal stops breathing and her mother sees her turning blue

Illustration from the story of Crystal McVea: “Crystal stops breathing and her mother sees her turning blue”

Crystal told her mother she loved her, closed her eyes, and fell asleep. Her mother noticed her legs were cold and covered her up. Then she saw that her lips were blue.

Her mother knew CPR. She checked for breathing and found none. She checked for a pulse in her neck and found none there either. She shouted for a nurse.

Nurses, doctors, and more people came in until the room was full. They called a code blue, the hospital’s most serious emergency alert. They pressed on her chest and pushed air into her with a bag and a mask. Crystal says she went nine minutes in all without breathing on her own. Two of those minutes passed before the first nurse came in, and seven were resuscitation.

Crystal remembers nothing of what happened in the room.

Step 4

During those nine minutes · Crystal’s account

Crystal says she wakes up before God, with two angels beside her

Illustration from the story of Crystal McVea: “Crystal says she wakes up before God, with two angels beside her”

Crystal says she closed her eyes in the bed and, when she opened them, she was in an immense brightness. On her left there were two angels. On her right there was a being she recognized at once as God.

She felt no fear and no shame. She felt that God loved her completely. All her questions about God disappeared.

She says God showed her her four children and told her she could go back to them or stay. She chose to stay.

Crystal, God, and the two angels, she says, began moving forward through a tunnel of light.

Step 5

During those nine minutes · Crystal’s account

Crystal says that in the tunnel she sees a little girl playing with a basket

Illustration from the story of Crystal McVea: “Crystal says that in the tunnel she sees a little girl playing with a basket”

Crystal says that at the far end of the tunnel there was an even stronger light. Before reaching it, she saw a little girl of three or four.

The girl wore a white bonnet and a white summer dress with touches of yellow. She had a small white wicker basket. She was skipping and laughing, and she dipped the basket into the light the way you scoop up water.

Crystal felt a love for her so great that she thought she was going to burst. She says that was when she knew the little girl was herself at three. She says the abuse began at that age.

Then, she says, she heard a voice coming from far away.

Step 6

At the end of those nine minutes · Crystal’s account

Crystal says she hears her mother shouting her name and decides to go back

Illustration from the story of Crystal McVea: “Crystal says she hears her mother shouting her name and decides to go back”

Crystal says she heard her mother shout, “Crystal! Crystal!” It was the first time she had heard anything from Earth.

She says that until then she hadn’t thought about her hospital room. She didn’t see herself from above or see anyone around her bed. But when she heard her mother, she wanted to tell her she was all right. God answered that the decision was hers.

Crystal says she turned around and opened her eyes in the bed.

Step 7

Right afterward · In her hospital room · Crystal’s and her mother’s accounts

Already awake, she is given a drug that reverses an overdose

Illustration from the story of Crystal McVea: “Already awake, she is given a drug that reverses an overdose”

Her mother heard a doctor say that Crystal had moved her eyelids. That was when she began shouting her name. The doctors gave Crystal a shot of Narcan, a drug that reverses the effect of very strong painkillers when someone has been given too much.

Crystal says the most likely explanation is that the painkiller pump was set wrong and gave her more than her body could take. She says no one can know for sure.

She was taken to the ICU. Her mother says the doctor who had revived her burst into tears when Crystal said she had been with God. Eight days later she was discharged.

Soon afterward, Crystal told her mother about the little girl.

Step 8

After she was discharged · At her mother’s home · Crystal’s account

Her mother searches the albums and finds a photo of Crystal at three

Illustration from the story of Crystal McVea: “Her mother searches the albums and finds a photo of Crystal at three”

Crystal says that when she described the little girl to her mother, her mother started to cry. When she got home, Crystal’s mother took out the family photo albums and searched through them.

She found a faded photo of Crystal at three. She was wearing a white bonnet and a white summer dress with touches of yellow. There is no basket in the photo, but her mother remembers that she had bought her one too and that Crystal took it everywhere.

Crystal says she didn’t remember the photo, the dress, or the basket.

For a while, Crystal didn’t dare tell anyone outside her family.

Step 9

2010 to 2013 · Oklahoma · Crystal’s account

Crystal changes her life and begins telling her story

Illustration from the story of Crystal McVea: “Crystal changes her life and begins telling her story”

Crystal says that after those nine minutes she forgave the people she had been angry with. She asked her mother, her brother, and her father for forgiveness. She stopped caring about material things.

At first she told everyone who came into her room. When she noticed they didn’t believe her, she stopped telling it. Only her husband, Virgil, asked her every night to tell it again. Months later she began telling it in public, and she wrote her story with the journalist Alex Tresniowski.

In 2013 the book came out.

Step 10

From 2013 on · From her book and television

Her book becomes a hit and Crystal tells her story on television

Illustration from the story of Crystal McVea: “Her book becomes a hit and Crystal tells her story on television”

“Waking Up in Heaven” came out in April 2013 and was one of the best-selling books in the United States. The photo of Crystal at three is at the end of the book.

Crystal told her story on several television networks. In January 2014, the Oklahoma station KFOR said the medical reports confirmed that her heart had stopped. It did not show those reports.

One question remains: who was the girl with the basket?

What does the evidence say?

What can be checked

We ask every story the same five questions. They help us find out whether someone saw or knew something they had no way of knowing, and whether that can be shown.

1.5 of 5
  • Yes
  • Unconfirmed
  • No data
  • Does not apply
  1. Did Crystal McVea describe the little girl before her mother found the photo?According to Crystal, yes. She says she described the girl to her mother and that her mother looked for the photo afterward. She doesn’t give the date, and her mother hasn’t given an account of her own. The oldest source we have found is her 2013 book.
  2. Is it known what time Crystal McVea stopped breathing?Does not apply. Crystal gives the day, December 10, 2009, but not the time, and here the time doesn’t matter. What is being compared is a photo from her childhood, not something that happened at the same time as the arrest. No medical report has been published.
  3. Is it known when the photo of Crystal McVea in the white bonnet was taken?Does not apply. The photo has no date, but it is from around 1980, when Crystal was three. Here the date doesn’t matter. What counts is whether the girl she saw was the girl in the photo.
  4. Does the photo confirm that the little girl Crystal McVea saw was herself?The white bonnet and the white dress with touches of yellow match, but the basket is not in the photo. The photo appears in her book. According to Crystal, her mother looked for it in some family albums after hearing the description. It is not known how many photos she looked at before finding it.
  5. Could Crystal McVea have known in an ordinary way what she wore at three?She could have. It is a photo from her own family, and she could have seen it as a child, although she says she didn’t remember it. It is not known whether she saw it. Also, in the United States it was common to dress little girls at Easter in a white bonnet and a white dress.

Why we ask each question

When did each thing happen?

This is what is known about when each thing happened and when it was told, from oldest to newest:

  • Around 1980. The photo of Crystal at three. The photo has no date, but Crystal was 36 in 2013, so the photo is from around 1980.
  • December 10, 2009. Crystal stops breathing in the hospital. She gives the date herself. She doesn’t give the time.
  • After she was discharged. Crystal tells her mother about the little girl, and her mother finds the photo. Crystal doesn’t give the date.
  • April 2013. Her book “Waking Up in Heaven.” It is the oldest source we have found with the story of the little girl and the photo.
  • January 2014. The KFOR report, which says the medical reports confirm the cardiac arrest.

What is hard to explain

  • Crystal didn’t look for the photo. Her mother cried when she heard what the girl looked like, before she looked for it.
  • The white bonnet and the white dress with touches of yellow match. And her mother remembers that Crystal had a basket like that one.
  • Crystal doesn’t exaggerate her case. She says she saw nothing of the room, and in her book she questions whether she really died.

What remains unresolved

  • According to Crystal, her mother looked through some family albums after hearing the description and found a photo. It is not known how many photos she looked at. When you search after hearing a description, a photo that looks similar can turn up. That doesn’t prove Crystal got a specific detail right.
  • In the United States it was common to dress little girls at Easter in a white bonnet and dress and give them a small basket. A photo like that could be in many family albums.
  • The basket is not in the photo.
  • It is a photo from her own family. Crystal says she didn’t remember it, but she could have seen it as a child. It is not known whether she saw it.
  • We have found nothing written before the 2013 book. We have found no interview or written account in which her mother tells it.
  • No medical report has been published. The book doesn’t say which hospital it happened in or give the name of any doctor.

How many people have an NDE?

Crystal McVea is not a one-off. The most reliable figures come from people who survive a cardiac arrest. For more than thirty years, several teams of doctors have asked them what they remember. They do it in the hospital, a few days afterward.

Picture 100 of those people:

Each dot is a person. The 18 filled-in dots are the ones who described a near-death experience. That is what the largest study found. It was done in the Netherlands in 2001, with 344 people.

The other 82 didn’t describe one. Many remember nothing of their cardiac arrest.

The figure varies from study to study, because each one asks a different group of people
Where and whenPeople interviewedDescribed an NDE
England, 2001636%
Netherlands, 200134418%
United States, 20023023%
United States, 200311610%
United Kingdom, United States, and Austria, 20141019%
Vienna, Austria, 20231264%
United States and United Kingdom, 20232821%

What these figures don’t tell you

  • Only some people are asked. In the 2014 study, 330 people survived, but only 140 could be interviewed, and 101 reached the second interview. The rest died later, were too ill, or didn’t respond.
  • Most cardiac arrests are never counted. These studies run in a few hospitals for a limited time. Outside them, no one keeps track. Also, the 2003 study interviewed 1,595 cardiology patients, not just the 116 with cardiac arrest in the table, and 81 of them described an NDE from an earlier occasion. The study did not count them, because it only counted those from that hospital stay.
  • Some people keep quiet. In the accounts in our archive, at least 13 people say they kept their experience to themselves for a while. They kept quiet because they weren’t believed or because they were afraid of how others would react.
  • It depends on how you count. If you count any memory of the cardiac arrest, the numbers go up. If you use a strict scale, they go down. In England in 2001, 7 of 63 people remembered something. But on the scale, only the memories of 4 people qualified as an NDE.

That’s why no one knows the real figure. But every study shows that it isn’t rare. Between 4 and 23 of every 100 survivors who are asked describe an NDE. Crystal McVea’s case stands out for another reason. Her experience has a detail that can be compared with a photo from her childhood.

Frequently asked questions

Who is Crystal McVea?

Crystal McVea is a teacher from Oklahoma, in the United States, and a mother of four. In December 2009 she stopped breathing in a hospital and later described a near-death experience. She tells it in her 2013 book “Waking Up in Heaven.”

How long was Crystal McVea dead?

Crystal says she went nine minutes without breathing on her own. Two of those minutes passed before the first nurse came in, and seven were resuscitation. In her book she says she was never declared dead and that she doesn’t know whether she technically died. No medical report has been published.

Who was the little girl Crystal McVea saw in heaven?

Crystal says the little girl was herself at three. After hearing what she looked like, her mother found a photo of Crystal at that age with a similar bonnet and dress. Here we explain what can be checked.

Where this story comes from

Her book

  • Crystal McVea and Alex Tresniowski, Waking Up in Heaven (Howard Books, 2013)

Interviews

  • “Woman Says She Visited Heaven,” WHNT, February 3, 2014, a copy of the KFOR reportView
  • ABC News, October 28, 2013, and TheBlaze, October 26, 2013

Learn more

  • What is a near-death experience?Read
  • What does science say about near-death experiences?Read
  • How we check each storyRead

Our archive

  • Our reading of her book, interviews from 2013 and 2014, and the scoring against our five criteria, as of November 6, 2026

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