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A real-life story · Mexico, 1998

David Rojas’ near-death experience

David Rojas says that in June 1998 he was shot in the leg during an attempted kidnapping in Mexico. He had surgery at a public social security hospital. He later said that during the operation he saw himself from above and saw the doctors operating on him. He also said that when he woke up he recognized the surgeon. The surgeon told him there had been one fewer doctor in the operating room than David had seen.

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According to David, the surgeon was surprised that David recognized him. And that same surgeon also told him that one of the doctors he described wasn’t there. In the same scene there is a hit and a miss, and the witness is the same. What did David see in the operating room?

Step 1

Before · David’s account

A musician whose career is going very well

Illustration from the story of David Rojas: “A musician whose career is going very well”

David Rojas is a musician. As a boy, he picked out by ear on his grandmother’s piano the songs he heard on the radio. He studied music for ten years in Montreal and came back to Mexico eager to try everything. He even earned a pilot’s license.

In the end, he chose music. He sets up his own recording studio in Ciudad Satélite, just outside Mexico City. He is musical director of the OTI Festival and of artists such as Emmanuel. He is doing very well. He has a good car and a good house.

He says he is Catholic, “not a fanatic” (translated from Spanish). In 1998 he has no interest at all in the paranormal.

Step 2

Wednesday, June 3, 1998 · 10:12 p.m. · David’s account

An attempted kidnapping outside his studio

Illustration from the story of David Rojas: “An attempted kidnapping outside his studio”

He arrives at his studio with his girlfriend. He has plans to watch Game 1 of the NBA Finals with some friends: the Chicago Bulls against the Utah Jazz.

He stops on the private street where the studio is. He notices a car pulling up behind him. When he opens the door, someone hits him on the head with the butt of a pistol. There are four or five men. They push his girlfriend into the back seat and shove him over the gearshift.

The car’s digital clock shows 22:12 (10:12 p.m.) on Wednesday, June 3. David says he remembers it as if he were living it right now.

His car has an anti-theft system. If the door is opened and closed, the car shuts off. And it won’t start again without a code. The car won’t start.

Step 3

That night · David’s account

Shot in the leg

Illustration from the story of David Rojas: “Shot in the leg”

One of the men pulls out a 9 mm pistol and shoots him in the left leg. It doesn’t hurt. It feels like a kick. The attackers run off, firing five times at his girlfriend. They miss.

The bullet has shattered his femur and passed very close to the femoral artery. He can’t get up. He is losing a lot of blood. To slow the bleeding, he pushes a finger into the hole where the bullet came out, near his groin.

The ambulance takes a long time. He doesn’t know how long. It may have been fifteen minutes or half an hour. He is terribly cold, even though it is June. They put a tourniquet on him and take him away.

Step 4

At the hospital · Semiconscious · David’s account

He arrives at the hospital semiconscious

Illustration from the story of David Rojas: “He arrives at the hospital semiconscious”

He is taken to a public social security hospital. He estimates that he has lost more than a liter of blood. He arrives “semiconscious.”

An investigator from the public prosecutor’s office arrives before he goes into the operating room, because gunshot victims have to give a statement.

David can’t speak. They wheel him into the operating room.

Step 5

In the operating room · Under anesthesia · David’s account

David says he sees himself from above, in black and white

Illustration from the story of David Rojas: “David says he sees himself from above, in black and white”

“The next thing I see is me.” He is up above, and he sees himself lying there as if asleep. Everything is in black and white, “like quick photographs.”

He sees a young woman giving him the anesthesia. He sees three doctors operating on him, in order of height. One is tall, one is of medium height, and one is shorter.

He sees his leg held open with something like forceps. And he sees what state his bone was in.

He can hear, too. The anesthesiologist has a tape recorder playing classical music. Albinoni’s Adagio is playing.

Step 6

In the operating room · David’s account

David says he feels no fear, no pain, and no cold

Illustration from the story of David Rojas: “David says he feels no fear, no pain, and no cold”

What he feels up there is a very deep peace. “There’s no fear, there’s no pain, there’s no cold.” The terrible cold he felt in the car is gone.

“Time and space don’t exist.”

David says that later the chief surgeon told him what had happened: “We lost you for 5 minutes. We didn’t know what to do. We had to do compressions.”

He believes those minutes with his heart stopped are the ones he saw from above. No document from the operation has been published.

Step 7

After the operation · Awake · David’s account

He wakes up not knowing whether he is alive

Illustration from the story of David Rojas: “He wakes up not knowing whether he is alive”

The next thing he remembers is a fairly dark ward, with two or three patients next to him. The anguish, the pain, and the cold all come back at once.

He doesn’t know whether he is alive or dead. He wonders whether what he saw really happened or whether he dreamed it.

Step 8

On waking · David’s account

He recognizes the surgeon who operated on him

Illustration from the story of David Rojas: “He recognizes the surgeon who operated on him”

He is almost convinced he dreamed it. Then a doctor walks in. David asks him for something for the pain. Then he asks: “Hey, you operated on me, didn’t you?”

“Yes. How do you know?” “Because I remember you.”

“How can you remember me? We’d never met.”

It is the chief surgeon, Dr. Gilberto Eduardo Mesa. He is tall, thin, and dark, with glasses and his hair combed back. David also describes the second doctor to him, shorter and blond. He later learns that this is Dr. Alegre. The name means “cheerful” in Spanish. He jokes that Dr. Alegre “was anything but.”

Step 9

On waking · David’s account

A doctor who wasn’t there

Illustration from the story of David Rojas: “A doctor who wasn’t there”

Then there is the third doctor. David describes him as even shorter, young, very dark-skinned, “sort of like someone from India,” and smiling a lot.

The surgeon answers: “No, there were only two of us.”

David insists that there were three, because he saw them in order of height. He asks whether the surgeon is joking. “I don’t like to joke, especially not about that kind of thing.”

Years later, when they had become friends, David asked the surgeon again. The surgeon told him there was no one like that on his team.

To David, that third doctor was an angel overseeing his operation. He never found out who he was.

Step 10

The following weeks · David’s account

The man in the next bed

Illustration from the story of David Rojas: “The man in the next bed”

He spends three or four weeks in the hospital, with his leg in traction. A plate with 12 screws has been put in his femur.

In the bed next to him is an older man, very ill. David chats with him. He thinks the man’s name was Don Lázaro. Early one morning, the man is taken to surgery. He says that later he sees the man brought back to the next bed on a gurney. He asks how it went, and the man only murmurs.

In the morning the bed is empty. A nurse tells him the man died during the operation and was never returned to the ward: “We never brought him back.”

“To this day, I don’t have the answer,” he says. There is no way to check this part.

Step 11

Afterward and today · David’s account

He talks about death with people who are afraid of it

Illustration from the story of David Rojas: “He talks about death with people who are afraid of it”

David says that since then he has had encounters with “spirit beings.” He says he sees them and has recorded them. Today he calls himself a “ghostologist.” He has been on television since 1999 or 2000 and has a show, Historias de fantasmas [Ghost Stories].

He gives free talks in hospitals and nursing homes. In them he says: “I was dead, and for me it was a pleasant experience.”

Once, after a show, a woman sat and waited until the line had cleared. She had terminal cancer and three weeks to live. She asked him: “What does it feel like to be dead?” He hugged her and told her she could go in peace.

His story needs someone else to tell it. That could be the surgeon, Dr. Alegre, the anesthesiologist, or the operative report.

What does the evidence say?

What can be checked

We ask every story the same five questions. They don’t tell us whether someone is telling the truth. They tell us what can be shown today. Here we ask them about the doctors David says he saw in the operating room.

2.5 of 5
  • Yes
  • Unconfirmed
  • No data
  1. Did anyone tell David about the doctors who operated on him before he described them?There is no sign that anyone told him about those doctors, but we can’t be completely sure. Only David tells it, 27 years later. He says that when he woke up he told the surgeon what he had seen, and the surgeon asked him how he knew. We know the surgeon’s name, but the surgeon hasn’t given his side.
  2. Is it known when David’s heart stopped?The date of the cardiac arrest is known, but only from what David says. David says it was the night of June 3, 1998. And we only know his heart stopped because David says the surgeon told him so. No one has seen any paperwork with the time of the operation or of the cardiac arrest.
  3. Is it known when the doctors David saw were in the operating room?We only know it from what David says. According to David, the surgeon confirmed that the surgeon himself and Dr. Alegre were the ones who operated on him. The surgeon has not spoken about it publicly. No one has seen the operation report, which would confirm it.
  4. Do the doctors confirm what David said he saw in the operating room?The surgeon told David he was right about one thing and wrong about another. He confirmed that the surgeon himself and Dr. Alegre, another doctor David saw, operated on him. But he said there was no third doctor. So it doesn’t seem the surgeon was just telling David what he wanted to hear. And we only know all this from David.
  5. Could David have seen the doctors before he was put under?It is possible that David saw the doctors before he was put under. He arrived at the hospital “semiconscious,” and he could have seen them before the anesthesia. We don’t know whether he saw them or not. According to David, the surgeon told him they had never met.

Why we ask each question

Other details of his account

  • The date fits. He says that night he was going to watch Game 1 of the 1998 NBA Finals, and that Utah won. That game was played on Wednesday, June 3, 1998, and the Utah Jazz won it.
  • The music has not been checked. No one has confirmed that Albinoni’s Adagio was playing. And music playing in an operating room reaches the patient’s ears even if his eyes are closed.
  • The third doctor is a miss, according to the only witness. David describes him in as much detail as the other two. He gives his height, his skin, his age, and how he smiled. The surgeon says he didn’t exist. David tells this part himself, although to him that doctor was an angel.
  • The video’s title says more than he does. It calls him “the doctor from heaven who saved my life.” But David doesn’t say that doctor saved him. He says he saw him overseeing the operation.

What is hard to explain

  • The surgeon is identified by his full name. According to David, the surgeon asked him how he could remember him when they had never met.
  • He described in detail the height, hair, glasses, and hairstyle of the two surgeons. He didn’t know the second one’s name, and later learned he was Dr. Alegre.
  • David himself tells the part that doesn’t fit. According to the surgeon, one of the doctors David saw wasn’t there.

What remains unresolved

  • He arrived semiconscious. He could have seen the doctors in the emergency room or before the anesthesia.
  • David says he saw a third doctor. According to David, the surgeon says there wasn’t one. No other source can settle that difference.
  • Everything we know comes from him, 27 years later. Neither the surgeon nor the operative report has confirmed it independently. And what he said on television from 1999 or 2000 onward has not been reviewed.

How many people remember seeing their own resuscitation?

David says he saw the doctors while his heart was stopped. AWARE is a large hospital study. It did in-depth interviews with people who had survived a cardiac arrest.

Picture 100 of those people:

Each dot is one person. The study interviewed 101 people in depth at hospitals in the United Kingdom, the United States, and Austria. The 2 filled dots are the people who remembered seeing and hearing real things from their resuscitation.

Almost half remembered nothing:

What cardiac arrest survivors remembered
What they rememberedHow many
Nothing, AWARE, 2014 (101 people)46%
A near-death experience, AWARE, 20149%
Seeing or hearing real things from their resuscitation, AWARE, 20142%
Seeing real things from their resuscitation, AWARE II, 2023 (28 people)1 of 28

What these figures don’t tell you

  • Very few make it to the interview. The first study began with 2,060 cardiac arrests. Only 140 survivors were able to answer questions, and 101 completed the in-depth interview.
  • The hidden images were never put to the test. The study placed images on high shelves that could only be seen from the ceiling. The two people who described seeing their resuscitation had their cardiac arrest in rooms without a shelf.
  • David’s situation was different. He was in surgery, under anesthesia. It is not known whether the figures would be the same in an operating room.

Of those two people, one could be checked against his medical records. That is the story of the patient in the blue cap. What David saw could not be checked that way.

Where this story comes from

Interview

  • Interview on the Experiencias Cercanas a la Muerte [Near-Death Experiences] channel (2026), in SpanishWatch on YouTube

Studies

To understand more

  • What does science say about these experiences?Read
  • What does dying feel like?Read

Our archive

  • His record and our assessment of what he saw in the operating room, as of October 10, 2026

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